Energy Secretary Rick Perry suggests President Donald Trump's Thursday threat to remove immigration officers from California is merely a negotiating tactic.
"The President is a first-rate negotiator," he tells Fox & Friends, "and I will suggest to you that that is what is going on."
Perry says Trump is "clearly" sending messages not just to California, "but also to Congress," with his thread to pull the U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement agency out of California to protest so-called "sanctuary" jurisdictions, which the administration claims are a magnet for immigrants who commit crimes.
Trump said Thursday his administration is making strides against the MS-13 gang but has been "getting no help from the state of California."
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