Because he maintains "no criminality" has been found for those involved, President Donald Trump's attorney Rudy Giuliani reiterated Sunday there are no plans for presidential pardons stemming from special counsel Robert Mueller's investigation.
"I guess I should clarify this once and for all – I think I have – the president has issued no pardons in this investigation; the president is not going to issue pardons in this investigation," Giuliani told CNN's "State of the Union" on Sunday.
"My advice to him is not to do it because you just cloud what is becoming a very clear picture of an extremely unfair investigation with no criminality involved.
"I want that to come out loud and clear and not get clouded by anybody being fired or pardoned."
Giuliani did say President Trump does retain "pardon power," though, to which CNNhost Jake Tapper asked if that was a way to overtly signal to those involved they do not have to cooperate with Mueller's investigators.
"Jake, I don't think that is the interpretation," Giuliani said. "It is not intended that way. What it should be, what I mean, is you will not get a pardon just because you are involved in this investigation. You probably have a higher burden if you are involved in this investigation as compared to the others who get pardoned, but you are not excluded from it if, in fact, the president and his advisers come to the conclusion that you have been treated unfairly."
Speaking on The Washington Post report Sunday of Roger Stone's newest revelation he had met with someone offering dirt on Hillary Clinton for a sum of $2 million, Giuliani rejected any notion President Trump had knowledge of that May 2016 meeting Stone characterized as a "waste of time."
"I doubt" President Trump knew about Stone's meeting with someone going by the name of Henry Greenberg, Giuliani told Tapper.
"I certainly didn't know about it," Giuliani said. "It is news to me. I just read it here in The Washington Post. It seems to me, however — whatever differing recollections about this — it sort of gets resolved with the fact that Stone did nothing about it, came to the conclusion that it was a waste of time. He and Greenberg came to the conclusion that it was a waste of time.
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