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Ron Johnson: Keeping Illegals Out Is Like Trying to Dam Water

By    |   Monday, 09 February 2015 10:51 AM

Short of erecting fences, securing the United States is a mind-boggling dilemma, Senate Homeland Security Committee Chairman Ron Johnson said Monday on "America’s Forum" on Newsmax TV.

"You've got the Rio Grande, you've got Mexican parks right across the river from American parks, and you've got Mexicans and other than Mexicans wading in the water just biding their time, in many cases controlled by the drug cartels in terms of the flow of people that are going to rush the border when night falls," said Johnson.

"So this is a highly organized effort. So much of this is really all about drug trafficking, using human trafficking to certainly divert, overwhelm, the response from public safety officials who again are just performing heroically, but they're fighting a losing battle."

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When asked why a House companion bill requests five years to get control of the border, Johnson, who spent the weekend at the Texas-Mexico border, said that the magnitude of the multifaceted problem both political and geographical necessitates time.

"When you're down here, what works is fences, because we have dramatically increased our electronic surveillance equipment. We have dramatically increased the number of people on the border, but … the flooding of the border of children and women and children and then everybody surges their resources to take care of those individuals while further downstream you get people slipping through the cracks," Johnson, a Wisconsin Republican, said.

"It's like trying to dam up water. You can dam it in one spot but it flows around and it still gets through. So it's going to be very difficult."

Even if everyone agreed to fund fences, it’s a complicated matter because there are issues such as eminent domain for property owners who abut the river and the border, as well as dealing with "environmentally sensitive areas" such as ranches purchased by the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service, which has "allowed the land to grow wild."

"So once you detect people, they can get into these very wild areas and go undetected,"  Johnson said.

The illegal drug trade, coupled with President Barack Obama’s policies and executive orders granting amnesty to millions, increases the problem by creating the incentive for people to come here illegally, he said.

"There's an expectation created by our own government policies that again, if you come to America, you're going to be treated humanely, which of course we will do, but you will also be allowed to stay," he said. "So we have got to review those policies and understand that it's our own government policies that are creating an awful lot of the incentive, combined with our demand for drugs that is really overwhelming our capability of securing our border."

The Mexican military is also not doing its part, Johnson added, allowing largely ungoverned areas to be controlled by drug cartels.

"[Authorities] can hear the gunfire of the drug battles going on just across the river," he said. "This is all about moving drugs, using immigrants as human shields and human diversions, for enormous drug trafficking."

Johnson said Democrats and the president have blocked the ability to fund the Department of Homeland Security, whose money runs out at the end of the month.

He hopes that having a hearing on executive amnesty to show how U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services (USCIS) would be overwhelmed by executive amnesty will convince Democrats to do the right thing.

"It is President Obama that picked this fight; he was warned he was going to poison the well. He has, and it's Democrats that are blocking us from even considering a funding bill on the Senate," Johnson said.

"It's the Democrats that are playing politics. I'd like to fund the department. [But] I do not want to fund President Obama's executive amnesty because it is going to create the incentives for more illegal immigration, more drug trafficking, and it exacerbates the problem."

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