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Hillary: Trump Is 'Even Worse Than I Thought He'd Be'

Hillary: Trump Is 'Even Worse Than I Thought He'd Be'

By    |   Saturday, 23 September 2017 12:51 PM

In her concession speech back in November, a defeated Hillary Clinton said she wanted to make it clear that Americans should allow President Donald Trump to be the leader for everybody, but on Saturday, she said "that just hasn't turned out to be the case."

"I really had such deep doubts about his preparation, his temperament, his  character, his experience, but he's been even worse than I thought he would be," Clinton, during a lengthy interview on MSNBC's "AM Joy," told show host Joy Reid. "We want to feel like the person in the Oval Office really cares about and is looking after everybody. That just hasn't turned out to be the case."

Clinton, appearing on the program to tout her latest memoir, "What Happened," told Reid that her doubts about Trump's tenure started in earnest on Inauguration Day.

"I opened the book talking about how excruciating it was to go and what a missed opportunity for him [it was] because all he did was reinforce the dark, divisive image of America that he'd been feeding to his supporters," said Clinton.

Also on Saturday, Clinton spoke out against racism, pointing out that in 2012, a backlash began that was "clearly in part a reaction to Obama," who had conducted himself with dignity and had done an "honorable and excellent job."

But, she continued, Charlottesville showed that race is a "huge negative force" that motivated white supremacists and neo-Nazis.

Clinton, though, demurred from Reid's question about if she thinks Trump himself is a white supremacist, saying she can't "look into his heart."

"I certainly think there's a lot of evidence as to how he has behaved historically and as president. I can't look into his heart," said Clinton. " I can't say what he really feels, because I think he's such a political opportunist, that if he could get votes from a different direction, he would probably go there."

Trump did, though, start from the very first day of his campaign with attacks against Mexicans, she pointed out.

"He had dog whistles that got increasingly louder on immigrants, and Latinos, and African-Americans, and women, and Muslims, and the whole panoply of scapegoats that he was holding out to his supporters as the explanation for whatever their grievance was," said Clinton. "What I try to say in the book is, look, you need both economic justice and social justice."

Further, she said she thinks Trump sees the world in a "very dark, divisive way, as we heard in the UN speech. It's us versus them."

And Trump's "us," she said, is "very much defined by his own experience and by what we can point to," said Clinton. "His us is also how he tried to motivate voters to be for him and he didn't really repudiate David Duke, he didn't really repudiate a lot of the white supremacists who came out strongly for him. I called him out in a speech in Las Vegas in August of 2016 about the so-called alt-right, which is certainly very much grounded in white supremacy. So I think he has to be judged on his record."

Clinton on Saturday also reiterated her book's contentions that the United States has not dealt with sexism and misogyny, even though there has been progress.

"My life has seen so much progress on behalf of knocking down institutional barriers and laws and other obstacles to women's progress," she said. "It's very clear we have a lot more work to do and it's not only in politics. It's obviously in business and the media and every part of our society. I think elevating it and making it visible and forcing a conversation about it is absolutely essential."

Clinton told Reid it was "deeply troubling" during the election to hear the chants, led by Trump, to "lock her up" and to see women wearing buttons and t-shirts with obscenities about her on them.

"I try to unpack this, because, first of all, it's not pleasant to be called names and to be subjected to the kind of insults that come across the online media all the time, which we see when women express an opinion," said Clinton. "On a personal level, it was both distressing, but also somewhat problematic because it's one thing for people individually to express those views, but for a candidate running for president of the United States to give permission to those views being put out into the public are, in fact to encourage it and carry it on, to make it a centerpiece of his convention."

However, electing Barack Obama did not end racism, she continued, but it gave the country a chance to say "we are better than this."

"With sexism, it is still not viewed as the serious threat it is to women's aspirations, to the ability of young girls to imagine themselves doing all kinds of things," said Clinton. "I'm happy to have people disagree with me,  I don't agree with her on health or the economy or immigration, whatever they want to disagree with me about. But when they resort to sexism, it says they don't really know what their own arguments are."

Clinton said she is proud of women in Silicon Valley speaking up about sexism in the workplace, as "they didn't sign up for sexual harassment and assault. They've got the education, the drive and the ambition, a word that should be good for girls as well as boys."

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