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Cassidy Infuriates Mika: Trump 'Speaks in Hyperbole'

Cassidy Infuriates Mika: Trump 'Speaks in Hyperbole'
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By    |   Thursday, 19 October 2017 10:01 AM

President Donald Trump "speaks in hyperbole," and there are some who interpret it as lying, Sen. Bill Cassidy said Thursday morning, infuriating MSNBC's "Morning Joe" co-host Mika Brzezinski to the point that she cut his interview short.

"The president speaks in hyperbole," Cassidy, R-Louisiana, told Brzezinski, after she asked him if it's "fair to say the president has not told the truth at times on any level on anything" and if Trump has "ever lied."

The "hyperbole," he continued, is "interpreted by some as lies and by the president it's interpreted as just his exaggeration."

"'The most beautiful in the world,'" said Cassidy, mimicking Trump on statements he's made often. "Well, what's the most beautiful in the world? That's in the eye of the beholder. The president has a manner of speaking which is easily taken as a lie."

Cassidy said he does not "focus on that" but instead looks at the issues at hand, rather being distracted by whether "the hyperbole a lie or is it not a lie."

With that, Brzezinski ended the interview.

"We got it, Sen. Bill Cassidy," she told him. "I understand completely. Thank you very much."

Co-host Joe Scarborough, who is engaged to Brzezinski, would not let the comments go unanswered, however.

"You could smear spaghetti sauce and have 3 year olds do pictures in crayon with their feet, and if you told him it was a healthcare bill, he would say, 'This is the most sweeping comprehensive healthcare bill of all time. I will sign it now,'" Scarborough said.

"It's unbelievable that you had a comparison of Donald Trump to FDR ... and then a suggestion that Donald Trump just deals in hyperbole and we're just to look the other way," he continued.

"That was a profile in courage," Brzezinski added.

The exchange came after Brzezinski and Scarborough cornered Cassidy on whether he believes Trump knows what is in a healthcare reform bill he'd co-sponsored with Sen. Lindsey Graham, R-South Carolina.

The bill failed to reach a vote in September, but Cassidy said Thursday it'll likely return to consideration.

"It's been a complaint time and time again from legislators on the hill that he doesn't know what's on the bill," Scarborough told him. "All he wants is a bill he can sign ... you are not really suggesting that this president has read in on legislation and on healthcare legislation as much as past presidents, are you, because that's objectively just not true?"

Cassidy replied that President Barack Obama, when lobbied by Democrats on provision of the Affordable Care Act, would say he'd call back, but many times he did not call back.

He also said that former presidents, such as Franklin Delano Roosevelt, also delegated legislation, explaining that FDR depended on his assistants while passing legislation on the nation's currency.

"We have to at some point recognize different presidents have different governing skills," said Cassidy.

Cassidy, earlier in the interview, commented that Trump has said he's familiar with the provisions of the bill he'd sponsored with Graham, but pointed out he "can't step inside the president's mind."

"His concerns are that insurers will raise their rates for 2018, the cost share payments will be made, but the insurers will keep their rates high," said the senator. "They will not reduce them. It's my understanding he wishes to have that further assurance that if these payments are made, insurance companies truly lower their premiums."

He admitted, though, that he does not know if Trump read the bill because "I'm not with him all the time. On the other hand, the concern he's expressing is one I have. You don't want it to be a windfall for the insurance company. You want the premiums to come down for the American people. There's been times when there's been windfalls for various industries for something intended to be for the American people."

Cassidy does think that if the bill comes up for a vote, matters may be different.

Sens. John McCain, R-Arizona and Lisa Murkowski, R-Alaska, both had concerns about "Process, not over policy," said Cassidy. Further, he believes there are states represented by Democrats that could do "far better" under the bill.

"Virginia would end up with four to five billion more under Graham-Cassidy than the status quo," said Cassidy. "I'm hoping those Democratic senators from those states would support the bill."

The bill will go under some modifications, he added, as "it's a different legislative year."

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