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Psychologist: Let Shrinks Help CIA on Torture Issues

By    |   Monday, 04 May 2015 06:48 PM

Should the American Psychiatric Association be working with the CIA on how to torture terror suspects for vital information without going over the line?

Terry Lyles, a nationally recognized psychologist, told Ed Berliner on Newsmax TV's "MidPoint" that the resounding answer is yes.

"When we look at this interrogation process that's called torture, if you bring in a psychologist or a psychiatrist to find out where that line is, I don't know of any terrorist organization that's doing that," Lyles said Monday.

"They'll just interrogate you and cut your head off. At the end of the day, at least we, as Americans, are trying to find out what that line is.

"We need intelligence . . . I'm amazed when people get so upset when we try to find out what terrorists are doing, and yet they look at us like we're causing the problem."

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His comments came after the New York Times reported that the APA had secretly collaborated with the George W. Bush administration to legally and ethically justify torture in the U.S. war on terror after the Sept. 11 attacks in 2001.

The Times said the revelation came in a new report written by a group of "dissident health professionals and human-rights activists."

Lyles is not convinced by those who oppose such techniques in the name of "morality."

"This isn't a church service, so we'll leave morality to the clergy," he told Berliner.

"How do we get intelligence out of individuals that want to harm and kill us? There are all kinds of lines, it's just finding out where that line is and try not to cross it.

"It's wise to consult professionals, whatever that professional might be, to find out what is that line where breakage takes place. Was it torture? Was it enhanced interrogation?"

Lyles says the nation is safer because of the CIA's actions.

"All I know is it appears safer since 9/11. We can all admit to that and attest to that," he said.

"War is ugly. As the result of that, we have to find ways to curtail those kind of circumstances from happening, or innocent people die.

"After 9/11, everyone was saying enough. Everyone. We're done with this. We need to go get them. Right? I remember. I was there."

Lyles is the author of "The Secret to Navigating Life's Storms," published by Destiny Image Publishers. He has trained hundreds of people, including fire-rescue workers in and around ground zero and international forensic medical teams in parts of Asia rocked by a tsunami.

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Should the American Psychiatric Association be working with the CIA on how to torture terror suspects for vital information without going over the line? Terry Lyles, a nationally recognized psychologist, told Ed Berliner on Newsmax TV's "MidPoint" that the resounding answer is yes.
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