Rudy Giuliani continues to push back against criticism of his "truth isn't truth" explanation of the risks of a perjury trap — and lashed out at NBC’s Chuck Todd for arguing with him about it.
In an interview Monday night on Fox News' "The Story With Martha MacCallum," President Donald Trump's lawyer was sharply critical of special counsel Robert Mueller's protracted investigation of the Trump campaign and Russian meddling.
"They have no evidence of obstruction other than their version of the truth which is the reason why I made that comment," Giuliani said. "And Chuck Todd fell for it . . .
"He is not really an objective reporter," the former New York City mayor said of the journalist. "His anger and distaste for the president is palpable. He interrupted every answer that I gave he interrupted immediately with a talking point for the other side."
Giuliani said the same issue is evident in former White House counsel Don McGahn's reported testimony to Mueller about the president allegedly discussing the firing of Mueller.
"Let's just say again the president says we didn't discuss it — and Don McGahn says we did," Giuliani said. "It's not illegal to have discussed it, so there would be no reason for the president to lie. That's just his recollection. But if you have a prosecutor that's out to get you, and wants to select the truth in the way Chuck Todd thinks can you determine the truth."
Giuliani also said he has not advised Trump yet on whether to sit down with Mueller, accusing the special counsel of trying to run the probe "right into the election."
"I haven't finally advised him nor has [lawyer] Jay [Sekulow]," Giuliani said. "I hope they get this over with. . . . They are trying to run it right into the election. And if that's their strategy, the American people really have to learn that."
"They are trying to become judge and jury of the 2018 elections," he added.
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