President Donald Trump's lawyer Rudy Giuliani alleged that Joe Biden and one of his sons were engaged in a "massive bribery scheme" with Ukraine and that he asked the Ukrainian government to look into the matter during a contentious, and sometimes heated, interview Thursday night.
Giuliani appeared on CNN's "Cuomo Prime Time" and came right out of the gate swinging after host Chris Cuomo introduced the topic of a whistleblower probe involving Trump and, according to reports, Ukraine.
"I'm glad I'm on tonight because what you just said is totally erroneous," Giuliani said. "Every single thing you just said is completely spun in the same direction you've been doing for two years."
Giuliani then tried to make his case that neither he nor Trump tried to recruit Ukraine to help the president win another term in office. His argument led to a discussion about Biden, the leading Democrat in the 2020 race for president, and his son Hunter amid allegations of corruption and bribery when the latter worked at a Ukrainian gas company.
Giuliani said he's been investigating the matter for several months. Cuomo then posed the question of whether he asked Ukraine to investigate the Biden allegations.
"No, actually, I didn't," Giuliani said. "I asked the Ukraine to investigate the allegations that there was interference in the election of 2016 by the Ukrainians for the benefit of Hillary Clinton."
Cuomo then pressed further: "You never asked anything about Hunter Biden? You never asked anything about Joe Biden?"
Giuliani replied: "The only thing I asked about Joe Biden is to get to the bottom of how it was that [former Ukrainian Prosecutor General Yuriy] Lutsenko, who was appointed, dismissed the case against AntAC."
AntAC is the Anti-Corruption Action Centre in Ukraine and, according to Giuliani, is funded by Democrat donor George Soros.
"So you did ask Ukraine to look into Joe Biden?" Cuomo asked.
"Of course I did!" said Giuliani, which prompted Cuomo to call out what he claimed was a contradictory statement.
"You just said you didn't!" Cuomo said.
Giuliani, a former New York City mayor, replied, "I didn't ask them to look into Joe Biden, I asked them to look into the allegations that related to my client, which tangentially involved Joe Biden in a massive bribery scheme, not unlike what he did in China. You explain to me how [Hunter Biden] got $1.5 billion from China when Joe Biden was still on the …"
Cuomo then interrupted, saying Giuliani should "be careful" about making allegations. Giuliani responded by calling Cuomo a "sell out" who won't cover anything that might make Democrats look bad because he's part of the "corrupt media."
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