Norquist: 'More Wasted Money' From Obamacare

Thursday, 02 May 2013 07:37 PM

By Todd Beamon and Kathleen Walter

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Americans for Tax Reform President Grover Norquist tells Newsmax TV that Obamacare "gives us more debt, more wasted money."

"It's slowing the economy down. It's why we have such poor job performance, so few new jobs — so many people leaving the workforce because they can't find jobs," Norquist tells Newsmax in a wide-ranging exclusive interview.

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"Obamacare also puts real dead-weight-loss costs on hiring an additional worker. It’s one of the reasons we have the unemployment levels that we have.

"We've been technically growing since six months into Obama's term," he adds. "It doesn’t feel like it because it's so weak. It's anemic growth. But, technically, it's growth.

"We're not in a recession. We're in a period of growth. It's very weak, lousy growth — and that's because of Obamacare, the spending programs, and the wasted money and debt that we have."

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Even though Obamacare, formally known as the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act, has been implemented, nine new taxes will take effect this year. "It’s not helpful," Norquist says.

However, Norquist's attention is more focused on Monday's vote in Congress on the proposed Internet sales tax. He tells Newsmax that abuses are rampant if Capitol Hill approves the measure, which forces online retailers to collect sales tax.

Last month, the Senate voted 74-20 to debate "The Marketplace Fairness Act," which would help states force online stores to collect sales taxes.

If passed, Web retailers would have to collect an estimated $22 billion in taxes that is now ignored.

Under the bill, the sales taxes would be sent to the states where a shopper lives.

States now can only require stores to collect sales taxes if the retailer has a physical presence in the state. As a result, many online sales are essentially tax-free, giving Internet retailers an advantage over brick-and-mortar stores.

"The Supreme Court has said that one state cannot tax businesses in another state. Makes a lot of sense," Norquist begins. "You don't want to have taxation without representation. There's no limit to how much you can abuse people in another state.

"This effort to tax people who move or purchase from another state is a bad idea — and I hope it will be defeated, but it has to be defeated in the House."

The legislation, which ATF has been battling for 15 years, also "reduces the tax competition between states. The whole point of having 50 states is so voters can find what works and what doesn't work and politicians can learn what works and what doesn't work," Norquist says.

For instance, the law would allow residents in low-tax states to be taxed by high-tax ones. "What if the high-tax states decided, 'We're going to export our taxes to people living somewhere else when they buy something?'

"That's why it's a very bad idea," Norquist concludes. "That's why the loser states want it — and the public-sector unions want it, because they think they can raise money, a new source of money, so that they don't have to reform their pensions."

“Voters will be very unhappy if this passes and very unhappy with people who said that they weren't going to vote to raise taxes,” he adds.

On immigration reform, Norquist reiterated his support for comprehensive legislation that has been put forth by the bipartisan “Gang of Eight” senators that include GOP Sen. Marco Rubio of Florida and Democratic New York Sen. Chuck Schumer.

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“It's a very good starting point,” Norquist tells Newsmax. “It has strong border security, e-verify. They're going to start making sure people who come here on visas leave when they say they're going to.”

The legislation also addresses the issue of high-tech immigration. “We need a lot more talent and smarts and knowledge into this country. Our farming industry doesn't work without more workers who come here, at least on a temporary basis.

“This bill fixes a lot of the problems we've seen and when there was argument in the past about immigration reform back in 2007. The arguments against that reform have been looked at and fixed in this bill.

“It's a good starting point,” Norquist adds. “We should do more in some areas, but it's a very good starting point.”


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