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Ex-Navy SEAL: Call It Torture, But Don't Rule It Out

By    |   Wednesday, 10 Dec 2014 07:58 PM

The difference between enhanced interrogation and torture is "not really much," a former Navy SEAL who fought in Iraq told Newsmax TV on Wednesday, suggesting that he doesn't care what people call it as long as they respect the need to use it in order to save lives in a war.

"We have to understand that if we are unwilling to be as ruthless as our enemy, we've already lost the conflict," ex-SEAL Carl Higbie told "MidPoint" host Ed Berliner. "And that's what happened."

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Higbie, author of this year's "Battle on the Home Front: A Navy SEAL's Mission to Save the American Dream," said that referring to torture as enhanced interrogation is "just a vernacular thing" and an instance of "political jargon" and "spin" designed to make people "feel better about it."

Higbie was critical of a Senate report condemning the CIA's use of waterboarding and other brutal techniques on detainees after 9/11, and he defended such methods, arguing that "the only way to get information" from captive enemy combatants "is to aggressively interrogate them."

"They don't just give it up if you hand them a bottle of water or a cup of tea," he said.
Higbie brushed aside the "we're better than that" argument for American troops to refrain from torture.

"I've heard that a thousand times and the problem is, I am better as an American because I'm better trained, I fight better and I have more to fight for because I believe in the mission," said Higbie. "If you take away the ability for us to really believe in the mission — i.e. prosecute people for interrogating that led to definitive evidence that helped us win the war and save American lives, then guess what? If you take that away, people will lose faith and they will not fight as hard.

"It's okay to torture a terrorist that was trying to kill you, and that will kill you if you let them go again — as [President] Obama has done," said Higbie.

Higbie also discussed a new Military Times article, "America's Military: A Force Adrift," which describes plummeting morale among active duty troops and veterans alike.

Service members still cherish their calling, he said, but feel increasingly estranged from civilian political leaders who are unfamiliar with — and even hostile to — their country's own military.

"I can tell you, the faith in the mission is not lost. It's the fact that we have poor leadership," he said.

Higbie said the leadership failures are not confined to the White House, but he described the president as "not a great leader," and as someone who "never served in the military" and who "does, I believe, hate the military and what we stand for."

Higbie also said that commanders have kowtowed to civilian leaders who value "political correctness" more than military victory. "The men are seeing this and they don't have faith that their leaders will cover for them," he said.

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