FreedomWorks' Matt Kibbe: NSA Lawsuit Important for All Americans

Saturday, 15 Feb 2014 10:34 PM

By Todd Beamon

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The class-action lawsuit filed this week by Sen. Rand Paul over the National Security Agency's surveillance programs "matters so much, because so many people's rights have been violated," FreedomWorks President Matt Kibbe said Saturday.

"The problem is they've been gathering everybody's data," Kibbe, whose libertarian group co-sponsored the lawsuit, told Jeanine Pirro on her Fox News program, "Justice With Judge Jeanine." "It's been completely indiscriminate — and all of us who are innocent have been targeted in this mass collection of metadata, and that's the problem."

Paul, the Kentucky Republican, filed the lawsuit against the agency and President Barack Obama on Wednesday. The senator, a potential 2016 GOP presidential contender, filed suit as a private citizen and said he hoped the case would end up before the U.S. Supreme Court.

Ken Cuccinelli, the former attorney general of Virginia who unsuccessfully ran as the Republican candidate for governor, is the lawsuit's lead counsel.

Kibbe told Pirro that the lawsuit's strength comes from "public opinion and public education and a basic understanding of our rights — the Bill of Rights and, particularly, the Fourth Amendment. That's going to help move us forward."

Jay Sekulow, chief counsel at the American Center for Law and Justice, is also on Cuccinelli's legal team. He charged that the NSA's intelligence programs lacked specific objectives.

"It's one thing to have information through intelligence gathering, which I support," he told Pirro. "It's another thing to have a program without limits that has — not only no limits — but no real cognitive connection between what they're trying to prevent.

"If they're trying to prevent international acts of terror, or even domestic acts of terror, there should be a criteria that's put in place for data-gathering," he added. "That's absent here.

"You have to have a relevancy between the data gathered and what you're trying to prohibit here. That brings a real serious question.

"There's got to be a connection between the data you're gathering and what you're trying to prevent," Sekulow reiterated. "What's happened here is that, as this NSA program has expanded, I think every American is [now] involved."

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